Comments on: Villains: Garrosh Hellscream

By: Dolgrimeo

Dolgrimeo — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:41:11 +0000

Thrall is a shaman who wanted to bring redemption to his people and to pull them out of a dommed future to one where they can live out their lives peacefully. He knows that many obstacles lie in his way, and he has not given up yet. He is also growing old, yet even as we speak, the Horde grows strong, so his judgements are still clear. Yet when confronting Garrosh, an insolent young orc who became stuck-up after seeing a vision of his father dying heroicly, he merely shakes his head in dissapproval. Why is he not doing something about it? And why make such a reckless orc Warchief? Many of us don’t have the slightest clue, Only Thrall truely see’s. Perhaps the spirit’s have shown Thrall something that we hae yet to learn.

By: Anansi

Anansi — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:14:53 +0000

Varian went a LONG way to redeeming himself in his meeting with Saurfang the Elder at the end of the Alliance battle in Icecrown. That helps give him a bit more dimension than being King Emo in my opinion.

Garrosh on the other hand is overcompensating BIG-TIME. I’m still all for Basic Campfire over Garrosh, but my guess is a possible civil war between Garrosh’s version of the Horde and possibly Saurfang or someone else stepping up to oppose his Orc/Tauren-only clubhouse.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:41:16 +0000

Lol, the reason why thrall doesnt want war with the alliance is because he knows he will lose…If you take away all gameplay balances the alliance is far stronger in the lore, the horde should not have access to gnomish tech, and up until wow I do not believe in war,war2 or war3 that they orcs had any magi, shamans and witchdoctors only. Also, belfs would likely lore wise, go back to the alliance before attempting to destroy the only civilized culture around. Garrosh is a fool, he is unaware of the alliance’s power for he was never enslaved by it.

By: synth

synth — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:30:06 +0000

personally i hate garrosh, but hes far from a bad guy, hes just a war-loving idiot
anyway, ive heard he’ll be in charge of the horde in cataclysm, so he has to be a hero. the horde definitely isnt evil, and with that, it wouldnt make sense to put one who is evil as their leader, unless hes later forced to step down as thrall returns.

By: Blooddrizzt

Blooddrizzt — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:41:35 +0000

Ok, Im with Dave on this one. Blizzard has said that there is more than these two sides of Garrosh that we have seen, All we have seen is him being a depressed cry baby and a revamped true orc. We havent seen the levelheaded side of him. But never the less, Thrall would have a better chance of actually stoping the war than Garrosh because He and Varian come from similar pasts. Both have been captured, help captive and have actually been gladiators. However i dont think Thrall is just being pushed aside. I think He is going to become the Tirion of Cataclysm. Leading and helping both Alliance and Horde in these new battles, and leaving Saurfang to guide Garrosh like he has been. Never forget that Saurfang is the biggest and most persuasive pimpin orc of the Horde. I think Garrosh will do a very very good job in his time being Warchief. And then when it comes time to end Cataclysm, Garrosh will put his own name and legacy next to his fathers but dieing very heroicly in the end. For the time being, give the big hard headed lug a chance to quench that thirst for Alliance blood and get ready for some wicked PVP =D

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:02:04 +0000

Varion at the most recent battle for undercity declared all out war on the Horde. Since Thralls leadership of the horde the only hostilities have been from the Alliance, and even that has been little with Fordragon as a stand in leader. Now that Varion is here with a brand new chip on his shoulder the diplomatic approach of the likes of Thrall and Jaina are going to be uselessly tossed aside.

Like it or not Garrosh represents a side of the Horde that has always been there, a side that will not roll over and let the Alliance walk all over them, a side that needs to be brought to the forefront and, while a necessary evil, should not be put away as long as there are those on the Alliance that seek the destruction of the Horde.

From a more Game based approach Bliz has said that they are putting the “War” back in warcraft. It’s not called World of Hold your enemies hand craft. It’s called warcraft maybe this is exactly what the game needs to frshen up a bit, I think so.

By: tharion

tharion — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:47:10 +0000

Thing is, Varian wasn’t a warmonger. He’s actually done what he could to sidestep Horde aggression in the past, with his attacks being purely responsive in nature to perceived Horde assaults.

He was willing to meet peacefully with Thrall on multiple occasions, but Garrosh is the one who pushed it to outright conflict in almost all those situations. The only exception that springs to mind right now was the summit at Theramore when Garona attacked. In that situation, Varian assumed the Horde was attacking, and called Thrall out on it (and the reverse, obviously, also happened).

If there’s a warmonger in lore right now, it’s not Varian. It’s Garrosh.

If Garrosh does ANYTHING with regards to lore, it’ll be to make the Horde stronger either by pushing it to civil war, or by returning them to the Old Horde aggression.

Especially in light of Cataclysm events.

By: Ktok

Ktok — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:19:58 +0000

Sometimes you need a tyrant to defeat a tyrant… I don’t much care for Garrosh myself, but I feel he may be required to defend against the war Wrynn will bring against the Horde regardless of who is in charge. Garrosh being around will not hasten it and him being gone won’t prevent it. Wrynn is going to try and destroy the Horde, without a doubt. It may just be Garrosh’s hatred and brutality that sees us through the coming war as victors.